Sunday, January 21, 2007

Big Brother debate on Umar Lee's blog

From the comment section of Umar Lee's latest post:

Muslim brother
January 21st, 2007 at 1:26 am

Assalaamu alaikum:

Who cares about these stupid non-Muslim issues? A white British female kaafir allegedly said something insulting and bad about a brown Indian female kaafir on a non-Muslim British TV reality show. Who freaking cares? If anything I say, let them fight each other.

The same Indian non-Muslim that you are defending from the other white British non-Muslim surely has many Hindu co-religionists that had no hesitation in perpetrating the genocidal slaughter of thousands of Muslims in Gujarat a few years ago, as they have also killed thousands in other places in India and Kashmir.

Anyway, our most important concerns should be with what is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Kashmir, Palestine, Darfur, etc., etc., not what two non-Muslim bimbos are saying to each other.


Keep it real
January 21st, 2007 at 1:48 am

Salam Sisters and Brothers:

I was so surprised by your comments on a Kaafir woman and describing how beautiful she is, and what a “great role model” she is. We as Muslims discussing this is not dignifying as we have plenty of good role models that are Muslim women. They are not exposing their bodies, not dancing in Hollywood and Bollywood or anywood movies, and they could be good sisters, mothers and wives.

This is very sad that we Muslims are talking about a non-Muslim woman, praising her as if she was a prophet’s wife or that she had a big impact on our lives. We should watch and discuss good moral Muslim females and talk about it and learn from it. I don’t understand what we will learn from Shelpa Shelly’s personality and supposed “high class.” Please have mercy on yourselves as Muslims and think about something which is Islamically educational and are good examples.


My Response:

January 21st, 2007 at 3:19 pm

To all those asking why we care about "kafir", remember that if the Prophet (saw) and Companions (RA), thought in this manner then Islam wouldn't be the second largest and fastest growing religion in the world.

Abu Talib was a "kafir", yet the Prophet (saw) still felt sadness when he died.

In fact there are numerous examples of the compassion that the Prophet (saw) felt for Non-Muslims, so I suggest you go and read some sirah, before you criticise others for showing concern in a fellow human being.

It stuns me that some below view lack of compassion due to prejudice as being a good Muslim. It's far easier to hate then to love, to ignore rather then to care.

Being a good Muslim means following the Sunnah of the Prophet in all things, not just those we like the sound of or find easy to do.


otowi said...

The sentiment of your response is very correct in that the way of Islam and way of the Prophet (saw) is compassion for all of humanity.

I have no idea what they are talking about - some TV show I guess.

However, many scholars advise that Abu Talib was a Muslim, however he was fairly quiet about it (taqiyah) because that was necessary for him to protect the Prophet (saw).

LouLou said...


Surely you're not surprised that the Umma has more than it's fair share of bigots are you?

We're not really better than other communities. We just think we are.

Safiya said...

Otowi - Yes we are talking about the U.K show Celebrity Big Brother. Forgive my laziness in not explaining it fully, there's information about it on the BBC news website if you're interested.

I understand there is a difference of opinion amongst the scholars about Abu Talib, Allahu Alim.

Lou lou (the expensive lady ;)- Unfortunately I am very aware of bigotry within the ummah. in fact I find this type of bigotry the most disturbing as it's dressed up as piety.

DA said...

Islam is the best, Muslims are not.

[a} said... we shouldn't care? This is an attitude bigger than "Big Brother", and the people who cling to these non-Islamic prejudices are just parading their ignorance.
Although this I agree with:'Anyway, our most important concerns should be with what is happening in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Kashmir, Palestine, Darfur, etc..'